Papers of John Adams, volume 17

From the Marquis of Carmarthen, 27 May 1785 Carmarthen, the Marquis of Adams, John
From the Marquis of Carmarthen
Sir, St Jamess. May 27. 1785.

I forgot to mention to you today when you did me the honour to call upon me in Grosvenor Square, that it is customary for every Foreign Minister to send the Secretary of State a Copy of the Credential Letters they are directed by their Sovereigns to present to His Majesty or to The Queen. with regard to the superscription I find the credentials of the Ministers from the States General of the United Provinces are only addressed—“Au Roi de la Grande 125Bretagne.” I believe I did mention to you Sir that The Credential Letters are always delivred sealed into His Majestys Hands.

I am Sir / your most Obedient / & most humble Servant

Carmarthen.

RC (Adams Papers); internal address: “John Adams Esqr. &c. &c. &c.” LbC (Adams Papers); APM Reel 111.

To the Marquis of Carmarthen, 28 May 1785 Adams, John Carmarthen, the Marquis of
To the Marquis of Carmarthen
My Lord London May 28. 1785

I have received the Letter your Lordship did me the Honour to write me Yesterday, and have here inclosed a Copy of the Letter of Credence which I am directed by my Sovereign to present to his Majesty. I am So unfortunate as not to have any to the Queen: But I know the Sentiments of my Country and of Congress So well as to be Sure that this is not owing to any want of Respect to her Majesty. probably it was merely the Want of Information that there had ever been a Precident of it.1

I beg leave to propose to your Lordship, that the Superscription Should be “To his Majesty, George the third, King of Great Britain France and Ireland, Defender of the Faith &c.” if your Lordship Should not disapprove of this, I Should prefer it to the Address, of the United Provinces, as being more respectfull.

With great Respect, I have the Honour / to be, my Lord, your Lordships / most obedient and most / humble Servant

John Adams.—

RC (British Library, London:Leeds Papers); internal address: “The Right Honourable / The Marquis of Carmarthen / Secretary of State &c &c &c.”; endorsed “May. 28. 1785. / Mr. Adams.” LbC (Adams Papers); APM Reel 111.

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For more on the omission of a letter of credence to Queen Charlotte, see JA’s letters to John Jay of 29 May and 6 Sept., and Jay’s letter of 3 Aug., all below.

From Richard Henry Lee, 28 May 1785 Lee, Richard Henry Adams, John
From Richard Henry Lee
Dear Sir, New York May the 28th. 1785

I had the honor of writing to you by Colo. Smith, which letter I doubt not but that you have, or will in due time, safely receive.1

My hopes are great, that your wisdom, and the good sense of the 126British Administration; will extinguish the mischievous discord that has been so artfully and industriously fomented by the enemies of both countries to the essential injury of both, and in violation of the best principles of humanity. A set of acrimonious disappointed people, who meaning the gratification of their own malice and self interest, are poisoning the minds of men with plausibilities, and theoretic reasonings, that are opposed to the true state of things; and whose counsels if pursued, will tend only to plant dissention and distress, where mutual good & common happiness should be cultivated, and will flourish. The enclosed ordinance will shew you the measures that we are taking to dispose of western lands for the extinguishment of the public debt.2 It seems probable that this will have very powerful operation in effecting the end designed by the System. For the country is fine beyond description, both in soil and climate—Abounding with all those primary and essential materials for human industry to work upon, in order to produce the comfort and happiness of mankind.

Don Diego de Gardoque has just announced to me his arrival at Philadelphia in quality of Plenepotentiary from his Catholic Majesty, & that he will pay his respects in a few days. The enterprise of America is well marked by the successful voyage made by a ship from this port, that has returned after a voyage of 14 months from Canton in China with a valuable eastern Cargo.3 Our people met with great civility from the Chinese. And the Europeans at Canton, altho civil to the Stripes, were not a little surprised to see them there so soon, and at the celerity with which their voyages were effected. The gentleman who writes the letter, of which the enclosed is a copy, is a near relation of mine by marriage, and my Godson also.4 Added to this, I am his friend because of his real worth and deserts. He is the youngest son but one of a numerous family— Possessing talents, industry, and enterprise; he determined very early to shake off that indolence too common with youths of his rank in Virginia— In quest of fortune, after having finished his education, he went 15 years ago to Sea, and pursued his system to the East Indies some years before the late war commenced, and he remained in the East engaged with the country trade there.

His letter will inform you of his misfortunes, of his present situation, and his future views. My acquaintance has ceased with all who might have promoted his interest in the East Indies. Under these circumstances I venture to beg the favor of you to assist him to the utmost of your power in the way of procuring for him the 127appointment that he desires in the Company’s service. I know that it has not been uncommon in England for foreign Ministers to interest themselves in favor of Individuals, by which means the latter have been essentially served.

I am sure that you will in this case oblige a worthy able man, and a greatful mind. That your friend, the writer of this letter, requests this favor of you, will I am very sure be a motive of strong inducement with you to exert yourself. The letter that I have enclosed for him under your cover be so kind as to get forwarded by some of the India Ships bound to, or near to Calcutta. It may go with any letter in his favor that you are so good as to procure for him. It seems probable, at present, that Congress will not adjourn this year—if they should, it will not be sooner than the middle of August— Your letters for me will be in a good way when they are deliverd to the care of Messrs: Wallace Johnson & Muir Merchants in London

I heartily wish you health and happiness being very sincerely your affectionate friend

Richard Henry Lee.

RC and enclosure (Adams Papers); addressed: “His Excellency / John Adams esquire / Minister Plenepotentiary from the United / States of America to the Court of / London”; endorsed: “R. H. Lee President of / Congress. 28. May / 1785. / ansd July 15. 1785”; notation: “Postage 6s.”

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Of 14 April, above.

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This enclosure has not been found, but it was likely a printed copy of the Land Ordinance of 1785. Approved by Congress on 20 May, 500 printed copies were issued by John Dunlap, a Philadelphia printer, in late May, in time for it to be included with Lee’s letter. The ordinance set down the process by which land would be surveyed and sold. Among other things it provided that none of the land was to sell for less than a dollar an acre, reserved lot 16 of each township for the maintenance of public schools, and established how land grants to the officers and soldiers of the Continental Army would be redeemed ( JCC , 28:375–381; 29:923).

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Lee refers to the epic voyage of the Empress of China, Capt. John Green, which sailed from New York City for Canton, China, on 22 Feb. 1784 and returned on 11 May 1785. It was the first vessel flying the U.S. flag to enter the always seductive and often lucrative China trade (Smith, Empress of China , p. 6–7, 78, 219).

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This enclosure is a copy of a letter dated 12 May 1784 at Madras, India, to Lee from his first wife’s half-brother Thomas Ludwell Lee Steptoe (Louise Pecquet du Bellet, Some Prominent Virginia Families, 4 vols., Lynchburg, Va., 1907, 2:717). In his letter Steptoe indicated that he, presumably a passenger on an English ship, had been captured by the French in 1783 in the course of the Anglo-French war’s extension to the Indian Ocean and the subcontinent itself. The French turned Steptoe and other English prisoners over to its ally Haidar Ali, Sultan of Mysore. Recently released from captivity and short of funds, Steptoe appealed to Lee for his assistance, through contacts in England or elsewhere, in obtaining “a Factorship in the East India Companys Service.” Lee made additional inquiries concerning Steptoe in his letters of 1 Aug. and 23 Oct. 1785, both below, only to learn in 1787 of Steptoe’s death, in 1784 or 1785, as he traveled home (to JA, 3 Sept. 1787, Adams Papers). For JA’s efforts to assist Steptoe and his views on the opportunities for the United States in the East Indies, see his letters to Lee of 15 July and 6 Sept. 1785, both below.